
Mr. Voodoo
Voodoo Magic
by: Sasha D
For the real underground heads, who have been in this for a while, you'll undoubtedly heard of Agu, better know as the legandry Mr Voodoo. One of the most distinctive voices and flows in hip hop, he makes up one third of, arguably, well no, I'm writing this article so…THE TIGHTEST trio in hip hop…Natural Elements! Along with fellow members L Swift and A Butta, Natural Elements had the underground hip hop community anticipating an album since 1994. Numerous radio appearances, a whole heap of single releases and guest spots meant that hip hop was ready for the album… but what happened? Alphabeats.com caught up with Agu (formally known as Mr Voodoo) to ask what's he been up to and what the future holds.
Peace Mr Voodoo, thanks for taking some time out to answer these questions for alphabeats.com. First up, you are part of the amazing trio known as the Natural Elements. Natural Elements have always been a major underground favourite. However, there seems to be very little information about you guys. Please tell us how the Natural Elements formed as a crew, how you guys got together, the name, when you hooked up...
What's up?! this is Mr Voo aka Agu. First before I answer your questions I'd like to formally announce a name change. It's not actually a name change rather the name I've been known as all my life-AGU. For those that can remember the old days when I was on the underground railroad with J_Smooth on WBAI FM that was the name I used. So this just represents going back to the essence. NO fake shit, NO fake names, NO games. With that said, let's get on to the questions… Now for the first question, Natural Elements (NE) started way back in 1993 as a click of solo rappers under the tutelage of Charlemagne. It must've been like maybe ten of us- this kid named Dante, G-Blast, Howie Smalls, Tim the Xecutioner, L-Swift, and myself. We was getting together and doing songs in this dude Vidal's attic, having like ciphers that lasted for hours. We had mad talent up there but no one was recognizing so this is where the whole D.I.Y.E (Do It Yourself Ethic) arose. Char, Vidal, Char's brother Randy all got together and said "fuck these labels, let's get this cracking ourselves!" This is where the whole fortress shit started. This shit started hand in hand. So they felt I was the one that was "ready". We put out "Come Off Hard." That shit was getting a mad buzz so they put out a compilation with the other heads on there. This was Char's project and it was the first time niggas heard L-Swift. Hemlock was supposed to be on that but a conflict of interest prevented it from making the EP. This was like 1995. The demo was circulating but it wasn't on wax until 1996. That was the year that the world first heard of NE as a group. In 1996, I came back from a hiatus with "Lyrical Tactics-Come Off Hard pt. 2" and "S.H.I.N.E." That was the first time officially we came as a group.
So are Natural Elements still a group or have you broken up? It seems that each of you are doing your own thing individually?
NE has not broken up. We're still together. We just needed a break from this group shit to put all of our personal issues in order. We still communicating with each other. I got mad love for L (Swift) and A (butta). Hopefully, we gonna be getting together in the future to do some things. An album is inevitabilty but it's just a matter of when…hopefully soon.
How did you get involved in rhyming? What were your influences?
Me, I started rhyming in '85 or '86. I heard this Treacherous Three song where they was using this style I ain't never heard before. I mean they was saying shit like "I'll conceive a cybernetic evaluation of this rap sensation" and "I'm genuine like Paul Mason wine I'll say no rhyme before it's time." I ain't never heard no shit like that and this was like 1985. These niggas was way ahead of their time. That just told me that this rap shit was going to the next level. Then Kane, KRS one and the god Rakim came thru and that was it. Those were my chief influences. I ain't really got no present influences. I just try and do me.
Please explain what happened with the whole Def Jam situation? I know that the Natural Elements crew was signed with Def Jam in '94. What went wrong there?
The NE thing came about because of this DEF JAM deal we had. We ain't never really had no intentions of being a group until this proposal was made to us by Dante Ross and this other kid Martin More who became A&R for Penalty records and is responsible for bringing Capone and Noreaga there. But they came at me, L-Swift, and my man Ka with some like demo deal shit. They told us they was feeling us and felt like we would do well as a group since we was always on stage reppin together, or on the radio shows or whatever. We was like a deal with Def Jam? Hell yeah! We went in recorded some joints and submitted them. At first Dante was like I'mma sign y'all niggas but then politics played in and he wound up signing Smooth da Hustla"s brother Trigga because they was the shit at that moment. I thank them though. Cause if it wasn't for them planting that seed in our heads NE-the group might never have been.
Talking of record labels, the NE fam were then signed to the Tommy Boy black label in 1998 and you dropped the '2Tons' single, while the heads anticipated an album, which was dope as hell (I was fortunate enough to get a copy) but which never was released. What happened there?
The Tommy Boy situation was hectic. We was suppose to have an album put out in 1999. First, halfway through the album our A&R was fired. We still were still on and finished the album but they kept sitting on it. We were like let us go but give us our masters. So we got 'em. A whole fuckin album that no one may ever hear. If there's anyone out there that's interested in this-holler at us. They just stored somewhere collecting dust.
'I'm maximal you minimal/ Stolen African mineral/ Ill with the literal…/ When you hear it you'll/ get hysterical/ for you to beat me, it's gonna take a mirical/… see I've been dumb lyrical ever since they cut my umbilical/ so me being wack? That's not applicable…' (Lyrical Tactics 1996)
This whole business with labels must have been a very frustrating time for you. I even remember reading the Source magazine in '96 when you got hip hop quotable and thinking that yourself and the crew were about to blow…Did you ever think that you want to quit this whole thing?
After that deal we were like maybe we should take a break, sort things out. I started feeling like fuck this game. But then I felt like I came too far. I can't tell you what L and A was feeling, but I was like I ain't ready to quit yet.
After that whole situation, you dropped a single with Alchemist 'Chryme life' on Stimulated. How did that come about? What was it like working with Alchemist?
The Stimulated Dummies project came about due to an old friend- Dante Ross. He was feeling me from the Def Jam days and wanted me drop something with his label. When they told me that I was gonna be working with Alchemist. I was like it's over! This shit is gonna be a banger. Duke is mad cool. Real easy to work with. He let's you do your thing. But when it comes to the beat thing- he's the man.
Let's talk about your solo stuff now. You've got your new promo 12" on the streets 'Ahh who am I'. The single is produced by Looie. How did you guys hook up?
Me and Loo met through a mutual friend at work who knew about me rhyming and knew that Loo was trying to produce. When the deal at Tommy Boy fell thru I hollered at him and we just clicked from there.
Looie is definitely a hot producer judging by what I've heard. Is he executive producer on all your new projects?
Basically what we do is a collaborative thing. He does the beats and all but I still offer some input as far as concepts, samples whatever. But he's the man when it comes to the beats.
So does the 12" signal a forthcoming album? Any titles for the album, any world premier info you could hit alphabeats.com of with?!
This is just a preview of things to come. I'm like 11 songs deep and still going. My goal is to flood the rap market like drug kingpins flood the streets-with nothing but dope product. I'm trying to stay ahead of the game. An album is in the works but that's not my focus right now. If I do an album it's going to be called "hemlock." That's what I been doing since 1993. Feeding y'all Hemlock. The plan is to kill you slowly with hot product just like Macbeth did until I takeover.
What kind of approach are you taking with the album? What is the concept, subject matter?
The approach I'll be taking to this is simple- hot beats, hot lyrics. I'm from the street so of course I'm dealing with street shit. But I'll tackle all issues concerning our communities. The theme is simple-hip hop is back. Can't let it die. I live, eat, shit, sleep, this. I ain't looking for no record deals. Record industry is wack. We playing this game from the outside like a shooting guard killing the opposition team with three-pointers. If a deal comes it comes. See this is a pimp and ho business so I'm trying to put myself in situation where I'm not being hoed any more.
Is a Natural Elements album likely? If so when?
As for L-Swift and A-Butta, there's nothing but love for them dudes. We all know, although we don't say it, that as soloists we're a force to be reckoned with but as a group we're damn near invincible. But each of us has a road to take, if it leads to us getting together in the future then so be it.
Do you still plan to work with Charlemagne? Why aren't the NE crew still working with the Fortress team?
I love Char. He gave me my start without him I wouldn't be here. He's my #1 choice for producers I wanna work with.
DJ Premier had a joint of yours on his 'NY reality check' LP. He definitely seems to respect Natural Elements as a crew…any plans of hooking up with Premo?
The Premo situation is ill. I know for a fact he wants to work with not only me but NE. Him and GURU are partly responsible for our popularity in the underground. Premo was one of the only dj's on commercial radio at the time that gave "Come off Hard" spins. So he's been a supporter from the start. Him and Guru got on rap city in front of millions of viewers and said we were their favorite rap group at that time. So I know the love is there. But we, NE got to get our shit together and as for me when the time is right we'll do it. Right now I ain't really thinking about working with other rappers but I'm feeling a whole lot of rappers.
Any last words/shouts….?
I'd like to end this interview by giving a strong thank you to all my supporters and NE supporters, without y'all we could not have keep going for all these years. Your support is sincerely appreciated.
One Love… Agu